It was a welcome move, but only in some respects. The new center-left Swedish Prime Minister, Stefan Lofven, in his inaugural speech to Parliament indicated on October 3rd the intention of the Swedish government to recognize Palestinian statehood. He explained that such a move mentioned in the platform of his party is in accord with promoting a two-state solution, and more significantly, that is to be “negotiated in accordance with international law.” The call for adherence to international law in future diplomacy is actually more of a step forward than is the announced intention of future recognition, which has so far received all the media attention and incurred the wrath of Tel Aviv. To bring international law into future negotiations would amount to a radical modication of the ‘peace process’ that came into being with the Oslo Declaration of Principles in 1993. The Israel/United States view was to allow any agreements between the parties to arise from a bargaining process, which is a shorthand for acknowledging the primacy of power, taking account of ‘facts on the ground’ (that is, the unlawful settlements) and diplomatic leverage (allowing the United States to fake the role of ‘honest broker’ while at the same time making sure that Israel’s interests are protected).
I suspect that this hopeful language suggesting the relevance of international law was inserted without any awareness of its importance or relevance. Such an interpretation is in line with Swedish official explanations of their initiative as a way of helping ‘moderate’ Palestinian leaders gain control of diplomacy, thereby facilitating the eventual goal of mutual coexistence based on two states. It was presumed by Stockholm without any supportive reasoning, and against the weight of evidence and experience, that a Palestine state could emerge from a reinvigorated diplomacy. No mention was made of the settlements, separation wall, road network that have cut so deeply into the Palestinian remnant, which as of the 1967 borders was already 22% of historic Palestine, and less than half of what the UN partition plan had offered the Palestinians in 1947, which at the time seemed unfair and inconsistent with Palestinian rights under international law.
The United States Government spokesperson, Jan Paski, was careful to confirm the Oslo approach adopted by Washington that has been so harmful to Palestinian prospects for a viable state: “We certainly support Palestinian statehood, but it can come only through a negotiated outcome, a resolution of final status issues and mutual recognition by both parties.” Note the pointed absence of any reference to international law. Beyond this, there is less and less reason to suppose that the Israeli government supports a process that leads to Palestinian statehood in any meaningful sense, although Netanyahu repeats in international settings the sterile mantra of saying that any such results can only come from direct negotiations between the parties, and he adds the Swedish initiative if carried out, is declared to be an obstacle to such an outcome. So as not to arouse hopes, Netanyahu adds that no agreement will be reached that does not protect the national interests of Israel and ensure the security of Israeli citizens. When he speaks at home in Hebrew the prospect of a Palestinian state becomes as remote as the establishment of world government.
Unsurprisingly, the head of Israel’s opposition Labor Party, Isaac Herzog, was active in reinforcing Netanyahu’s objection to Sweden’s proposed course of action. Herzog in conversation with Lofven sought to dissuade Sweden from acting ‘unilaterally,’ suggesting that such a move was likely to produce undisclosed ‘undesirable consequences.’ So much for the Israeli ‘peace camp’ that now seems content to act as errand boy for state policy as led by the right-wing Likud.
The Palestinian Authority, short on good news since the Gaza attacks, at its highest levels (Abbas, Erakat) greeted the Swedish move as ‘remarkable and courageous,’ as well as ‘great.’ The PA leadership even suggested that recognition of Palestinian statehood could build pressure for a resumption of talks on a two-state solution as if that would be beneficial for Palestine. Such sentiments turn a blind eye toward the Oslo record of failure from a Palestinian point of view, and quite the opposite for Israel.
What is the value of the Swedish proposed step, assuming that it takes place? Israel and the United States seemed poised to use full court pressure to persuade Sweden to delay indefinitely making the move, and Sweden has retreated to the extent that it has reassured the world that it is not planning to act ‘tomorrow morning’ and hopes to listen to the views of all interested governments and engage in dialogue before moving forward. At the same time, the British Parliament is set to vote on October 13 on a non-binding resolution urging recognition by Britain of Palestinian statehood.
Even proposing recognition of Palestinian statehood is definitely a psychological boost for the Palestinian Authority, but it changes nothing on the ground, and likely makes Israel take some defiant steps such as provocatively issuing permits for additional housing units in the settlements, which it did in 2012 as retaliation for Palestine’s successful bid to be recognized by the UN General Assembly as a non-member observer state (similar to the status enjoyed by the Vatican). Recognition also gives Palestine potential access to the International Criminal Court, which again worries Israel as it should, although the Palestinian Authority has so far held back from seeking to become a party to the ICC, and by so doing gain the capacity to request the prosecutor to investigate various allegations of Israeli war crimes, including the settlements.
In international law diplomatic recognition by states has been traditionally viewed as largely a matter of discretion. The United States withheld recognition from mainland China for decades after it had consolidated its governmental control over the territory and its population. Palestine has been long recognized by at least 125 states, and enjoys diplomatic relations as if a state. UN membership presupposes statehood, but it is also highly politicized and subject to the veto by any permanent member of the Security Council. Indications are that, if necessary, the United States will stand alone in using its veto to block Palestine from becoming a member.
But why does Israel care so much as nothing changes on the ground? There would seem to be three reasons, none very persuasive. Firstly, since Palestine badly wants to be a sovereign state and a UN member, it would make further concessions to Israel to obtain such a status in the event of further negotiations. Secondly, Israel seems eager to have the formal capacity to deny Palestinian statehood in a full sense so as to allow for the future likely incorporation the West Bank into Israel when the opportune moment arrives. This is a course of action favored by the recently elected Israeli president, Reuven Rivlin, who offers Palestinians a supposedly benevolent ‘economic peace’ in exchange if they swallow their political pride. Thirdly, recognition might give the Palestinian Authority more leverage at the UN and the ICC, and self-esteem in Palestinian circles, especially if other European Union members to follow the Swedish example. At some point down the line Israel’s prolonged occupation of Palestine would under these conditions come under increasing legal, moral, and political fire.
Yet from the perspective of the Palestinian people as distinct from the Palestinian Authority, does it make sense at this stage in their struggle to continue to act as if the two-state solution could still bring peace? Israel’s feverish settlement activity of recent years seems to be a clear message that a viable sovereign Palestinian state is no longer in the cards. In fact, Sweden seems to be playing the Oslo game after the game has ended for all practical purposes.
In other words, if Sweden’s act of recognition had been linked to Oslo’s failure it would be pointing the way toward a constructive turn in peace diplomacy, but to justify it as a step toward the two-state solution achieved by direct negotiations of the sort that has failed repeatedly for more than 20 years seems an ill-considered expression of political innocence on the part of the inexperienced new leadership in Stockholm, a gesture for peace undoubtedly meant in good faith, but seemingly without any awareness that the sick patient died years ago.
I’ve said it elsewhere when I first read about this in the press. But it’s worth saying (shouting) again: BRAVO SWEDEN!! May other brave states follow your lead.
Gene: But don’t overlook the fine print, which I think leads in the wrong directions..and is unnecessary to the positive gesture.
Oops! I was expressing my joy over the fact that a European nation had finally recognized Palestine’s quest for independence. The original article that I had read did not analyze the announcement as you do. I see what you mean now that I have read yours. Nevertheless, ……..
Björn Lindgren’s comment is also relevant.
Dear Richard,
Thank you for a sober and informed comment on Sweden’s diplomatic initiative. Together with Noam Chomsky’s article “Facts on the Ground”, Truthout, 3 October 2014,
your comment clarifies the complexity and depth of Palestine/Israel conflict.
It is hard to shake off the impression that Sweden again uses its foreign policy to enhance its own self-image.
Prime minister Olof Palme did this during the murky Bofors Affair in India. If Palme had been genuine in his peace efforts, he had not allowed to Bofors sell their howitzers to India, and he would not have bribed the Gandhi and Hinduja families (recently disclosed by a Swedish diplomat, then serving in Dehli). But Palme treated the howitzers as “neutral” and “non-lethal”.
In my opinion, the Oslo agreement had a great flaw: it never defined the final goal of the agreement and the following negotiations, leaving Israel free way bulldozing a Palestinian State.
Now, it looks like the U.S. has just began another war in the Middle East. The theme is as usual, “creative destruction”, with dire consequenses in the offing. And, when the opportunity rises, Israel has showed its capacity for war without limit against Gazans/Palestinians – who can’t defend themselves – again and again.
My guess is, that a long-term, coordinated Palestinian nonviolent campaign in Gaza, West Bank, Israel, and internationally, could open for what now is lacking: new visions and new possibilities.
Best regards,
Björn Lindgren
SWEDEN
—
I think in this instance Sweden was innocent and naive, not malevolent. I lived in Sweden for a year, 1990-91,
and I became aware of the Palme/Bofors connection, especially in the context of promoting arms sales to both
sides in the Iran-Iraq War of the 1980s.
I think many Palestinians share your sense that the only hopeful future depends on such a nonviolent campaign
reinforced by a robust global solidarity movement.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment!
If there’s a case against Sweden here I can’t find it. So 125 countries recognize Palestine as a state but if Sweden did so it would be a serious hindrance? I read this argument 3 times and still nothing. The more that Palestine’s legitimacy is confirmed. the more that squatting on their land is shown for what it is. You still prefer to just wait for Israel to say – well, okay then – but as we define the terms.
Laurie: The only case is that the Swedish explanation of their initiative was to encourage a return
to the negotiating table, a totally futile proposal that would give Israel yet more time to consolidate
their hold on the West Bank. Otherwise, the Swedish proposal is helpful for the reason you suggest.
I would feel stronger at the negotiating table with the recognition of European countries and testimony from respected tribunals. Israel will continue to delay and renege anyway. If the confirming states coalesce on the issue, it could mean something. A united shunning by nations would appeal to many of us. Is there more comment/discourse from the legal profession on this?
As to rayo32 and Shlomo Sand, I kept looking for a word that is a disclaimer to the history and contemporary politics of my turf without losing personal legality. I’m a 1st generation Scot devoid of religion. To classify myself as a ‘world citizen’ increases my baggage beyond calculation. I’ve decided to define myself as a ‘Scot removed’. This is to be defined as a renunciation of history/ politics/culture in general but loyalty on specifics. Wonder who Gene says he is up on that Swiss mountain……….
Shlomo Sand: ‘I wish to resign and cease considering myself a Jew’
His past was Jewish, but today he sees Israel as one of the most racist societies in the western world. Historian Shlomo Sand explains why he doesn’t want to be Jewish anymore
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/shlomo-sand-i-wish-to-cease-considering-myself-a-jew
@Laurie
I tend to agree with Richard’s analysis. As for Shlomo Sand I tend to agree with him too. I myself renounced my adherence to Judaism in a declaration posted on this blog. His book, which I read in French last year had some influence on my decision, as has my friendship with Gilad Atzmon who offered good reasons to disassociat from Judaism. I don’t really live on a mountain. That is only metaphor for the neutrality of the Swiss which offers a sense of security. Not to speak of identity. I am Swiss, tho’.
Gene
PS – I give Richard permission to pass on my email address to you, since you requested it.
Laurie:
You write this: “I am a 1st generation Scot devoid of religion.”
Moreover, if you excuse and forgive me getting into the details of what you said – I like to share something with you.
Today, I get a phone call from a friend who has not slept for over 38 hours, is tired and just in a massive spiritual attack. After we talked for about one hour – just trying to sort out what is going on–my friend (we realized) had no idea the way to come out from confusion of religion.
Last night, I happened to be in the chapel, and no one was there, and I was very tired. I could not stay sitting because I started to feel the pain as I was sitting, and for about 30 minutes I could not stand or kneel, so I was just on my face as the overwhelm of the Presence was so great. I wish I were able just to take a nap there because I was just overwhelmingly tired, and I guess wanted just to forget about the order in the chapel…So I would have had at that moment – but I wanted to avoid being embarrassed just in case that someone surprisingly walks in and sees me on the floor. I was in a spiritual anguish for about an hour, and I did not like it.
I have found myself that I did not care about the order of the chapel – for I just did not want to be embarrassed! The chapel has no order; the chapel is the place where God does what God wants – but I did not want to be embarrassed.
It is sincere grief when people look what Israel does, as Jews, as Shlomo Sand who is Jew and that effect the Faith/Tradition of their Family line.
Shlomo Sand understands the works of Israel as a state that are horrific to the Jewish Traditions and perspectives of that, and by that it is terrible that he apparently falling off from Tradition of Faith / Family line.
I do not think that he has an excuse to walk away from his Jewish Background unless for the Faith itself.
I hope this is helpful.
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Interesting steps forward…
“A two-state solution requires mutual recognition and the will to co-exist peacefully,” Löfven said in his inaugural address to parliament.
A paranoid Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday that such ation will “not promote peace” but impede it.
Israeli foreign minister Lieberman has warned Swedish government over taking such anti-Semitic action. Israeli poodle in the White House has called Lofven’s announcement “premature”.
Israel’s “Swedish Problem” began when in 2009, country’s leading newspaper Aftonbladet revealed Israel’s dirty secret – Jew soldiers sometime killed Palestinian teens to steal their organs. In August 2014, Aftonbladet removed an anti-Israel cartoon from its online edition in its humor section page. The cartoon, which appeared on the website on the weekend, showed two persons in Jewish attires with one holding a sign with the Star of Zion and the message: Land of Israel while telling the other person: Hitler gassed the wrong Jews.
The Zionist experts believe that like the recent Scottish Referendum, Swedish recognition will provide an incentive for other EU member states to follow Swedish lead. It’s reported that British parliament is set to discuss the country’s recognition of a Palestinian state. I doubt very much if the UK’s powerful Jewish Lobby which controls the three major political parties would allow it to happen – but the 2.7 million British Muslims and MP George Galloway certainly would receive more bruises.
As that was not enough, Sweden’s famous “self-hating” Jewish writer Lasse Wilhelmson in a recent post claimed that the so-called “Islamic State” (ISIS) was created by CIA in the 1980s – and is “controlled and funded by USrael, Britain and Saudi Arabia for the purpose of creating chaos through terror and false flag operations. The objective is to weaken and split up the nation states of the Arab world , according to the 1982 Oded Yinon Plan. Read the entire post here.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/10/06/swedes-hate-israel/
History was my favourite subject in school. At 12 years old, I was glued to the radio, and read the newspapers avariciously wanting to understand the real reasons behind the 1956 Suez crisis.
I did not know why, but I innately knew this was important stuff not to be ignored and swept under the rug by the constantly changing news cycle with new supplanting the old on a daily basis. The discernment of recognizing the real important stuff, the major from the minor in a continuous news cycle, the stuff of the continuum in History, gets buried once again.
That is a long intro into into sharing information from History I never knew before Today. Gideon Levy must be a Malala fan. If Israelis hated him for expressing his Democratic Freedom of Speech against the War, some quarters will be even more furious at him for exposing this Zionist history.
Weapons of mass distraction
Can you believe it? Groups hiding arms in places of worship, schools, even kindergartens. Welcome to pre-state Israel, where comparisons with Gaza are not welcome……………………………………..
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.620260
Malala said she made the hard choice in Today’s world, knowing she could be killed for not speaking up, and be killed for speaking up. Her courageous choice should be an inspiration to all of us!
For as much then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself, likewise took part of the same; that through death, he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
And deliver them, who through fear of death, were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
For in that he himself has suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Gideon Levy, like Noam Chomsky, is a “Crypto Zionist”. In an Ed-Op titled, “Bombing Iran will strengthen it; only peace will weaken Iran”, published in Israeli daily Haaretz (November 5, 2010) – he came up with a novel idea by which the Zionist regime can isolate, neutralize and ultimately weaken the Islamic Republic.
Every Zionist media brainwashed person has to be fan of Pakistani child saint Malala Yousafzai, because she is a western creation to demonize Islam and Muslims.
http://rehmat1.com/2013/10/07/tales-of-two-muslim-malalas/
rehmat1, why take Gideon Levy’s writing completely out of context to further your agenda?
I listened to Malala’s acceptance speech and she wasn’t reading from a teleprompter. She made a courageous decision to speak up and look what it got her. Are you suggesting it was a Mossad/CIA false flag operation when she was shot?
Others can read Gideon Levy’s November 5, 2010 article here to see for themselves how your interpretation of what he wrote is not accurate.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/bombing-iran-will-strengthen-it-only-peace-will-weaken-iran-1.323019
rayo32 – Do you think I’m dumb to believe an anti-Muslim Israeli newspaper. Malala is as much Zionist creation as the so-called “ISIS”. You can check that with your Jewish sister Naomi Wolf.
“It takes five people to stage an event like this – two to be ‘parents’,- two to pose for the camera, one in ninja outfit and one to contact the media that doesn’t bother checking who ANY of these four other people are …,” Wolf wrote on his Facebook page.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/10/14/lobby-condemns-jew-author-for-calling-isis-beheading-faked/
Look and see: Pakistan is a democratic system.
Rehmat1, how can I answer this, “Do you think I’m dumb to believe an anti-Muslim Israeli newspaper” when you believe what you want about Gideon Levy from that same paper?
roy032 – You may not know, but even some Zionist Jews too have a “little” of honesty. Gideon Levy, Roger Tucker, Naom Wolf, Richard Falk and Gilad Atzmon are some of them.
rehmat1:
Why would you say this: “roy032 – You may not know, but even some Zionist Jews too have a “little” of honesty. Gideon Levy, Roger Tucker, Naom Wolf, Richard Falk and Gilad Atzmon are some of them.”
Do you understand what are you saying?
So you are here and you keep telling us that we all here are under a solid curse.
“I am under a solid curse and I do not know my way out?”
“I am so dedicated to my curse-solid!?”
What do you do when the will is unbreakable? (Smile).
Break the will? Just kidding! It is better to kick back and relax, instead and just watch on.
How do you straight out things made crooked? You just do not nor can.
It is written: [That that is] crooked not do .. .. .. be made straight that which is wanting not do .. .. .. be numbered.
http://biblehub.com/text/ecclesiastes/1-15.htm
“ Inflexible crookedness” is made out of the power of the “wants” / uncleanness.
You know that behavior of “wants” is as same as swinery? I do not like to think of me as a swine behaving…
Then we have this:
http://biblehub.com/text/isaiah/42-16.htm
Still, Isaiah is not as excellent speaking toward humans as Psalms 23 is.
It is possible that the wicked — just desperately wicked can make you almost disbelieve and even want to start to hate God…but is so impossible, and you just can’t! — and when that is about to happen you see the like a tornado hit and thinks just swept in a roving of destruction before you — but not of you.
You are so confused.
Once again, the vow of silence that I have taken on does not work and is made void. It works not…
Oh’ I am lamenting because I do need a pause. I almost will start to believe that I may be O/C. However, again, when I could not take a vow of silence I had to take a vow of destruction –and that in appearance is just awful.
I am lamenting..
God bless the Swedes – their hearts are in the right places, as when they trusted the Peace Prizes to Kissinger, and then to Obama; in how they welcomed all the refugees from Syria (!), and now…we can only hope that their good intentions don’t hurt them, as they did Palme & others, and that they are not cowed into ‘delaying’ by the stooges in DC and elsewhere.
On this matter of blame for the Nobel Peace Prize, it is the Norwegians, not the Swedes that
make the selections (although not for any of the other Nobel prizes). It is a matter of controversy
in Norway with the Nobel Prize Committee under attack for violating the spirit and letter of Alfred
Nobel’s will.
Please pardon the error – I was just used to hearing about acceptance speeches made in Stockholm.
In 2010, Norwegian sociologist professor Johan Galtung (University of Oslo), had claimed that the Nobel peace prize has become a political tool of the West.
“The West believes that everything it has produces peace: Christianity, trade, western institutions, sports, languages like English. Combine it all, and we get ‘colonialism for peace,” Galtung said.
The latest example is the 2014 “Peace” award to two Western “pasties”, who had nothing to do with “world peace” from wars and arms-race.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/10/11/nobel-peace-prize-goes-to-two-zionist-pasties/
Several hundred very prominent Israeli public figures have signed a letter to British MP’s supporting the motion to recognize Palestinian statehood. Looks like we shall know that outcome tomorrow. Just the fact that it’s being considered is significant. Of course, there is no state left and they do not define that in the letter. The plan was to continue to annex gradually till all is lost. It’s succeeding with the sponsorship and sworn loyalty of the US.
Dear Sir Thank you very much for your emails. I believe if we can find a solution to the Israeli -Palestinian conflict so that the two nations of Israel and Palestine can live side by side in peace the majority of problems in middle east and Arab world will be resolved automatically. If you write in simple English more people can enjoy your thoughts. Sincerely yours Mohamadreza Badiei
Dear Richard,
The Swedish intention to recognize the Statehood of Palestine is not done in unawareness of the complexities in the very situation. As to the US reaction the official Swedish response has been that it rather may be too late than premature. The foreign minister Margot Wallström has also stressed that US is not deciding the Swedish policy on an issue like this one.
For further insights regarding Sweden’s policy I recommend you and others to go to http://www.government.se/sb/d/19492/a/247911. There you will find her speech at the donor conference in Cairo.
Finally, my own understanding of the political situation is that the formal recognition will rather come sooner than later.
Kindly
Bernt Jonsson
Uppsala, Sweden
Thanks, Bernt, for these clarifications of Swedish policy toward Palestinian statehood.
On Monday, the Zionist occupied Britain’s MPs followed Sweden’s lead in recognizing an independent state of Palestine.
Netanyahu and Israeli embassy in London had warned prime minister David Cameron and the HM opposition leader Ed Miliband against giving recognition to Palestinian state. In spite British Jewish groups lobbying British MPs voted in favor of the motion with a majority of 274 to 12 with many Tories abstaining after a six-hour debate.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/10/15/uks-two-states-vote-irks-israel/
On Monday, the Zionist regime receive shocking news that its Zionist dogs in the British House of Common failed to stop a YES majority vote in favor of recognizing an independent state of Palestine bordering Israel.
Netanyahu and Israeli embassy in London had warned prime minister David Cameron and the HM opposition leader Ed Miliband against giving recognition to Palestinian state. In spite British Jewish groups lobbying British MPs voted in favor of the motion with a majority of 274 to 12 with many Tories abstaining after a six-hour debate.
A spokesperson for the UK’s prime minister David Cameron clarified ahead of the vote that when it comes to Israel, the parliament decision would not affect London’s relations with Tel Aviv. Cameron told reporters that he intends to abstain the vote.
The Israeli Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday that the vote in favor of recognizing Palestine as a state risks undermining efforts for what it called “real peace with Palestinians.”
Meanwhile, Britain’s Ambassador to Israel, Matthew Gould, an Israeli smoking gun against Iran, said public sentiment in the UK and around the world has shifted against Israel following its recent 50-day onslaught on the Gaza Strip.
The British envoy said the parliamentary vote in favor of Palestinian statehood was “significant” because it reveals negative attitudes toward the Zionist regime.
The UK majority vote is shocking to anyone aware of British political landscape. It’s no different than the Organized Jewry’s corrupted political process in the US, Canada, Australia, France and Germany. UK’s all four political parties, the Conservatives, Labour, Liberal Democrats and the UKIP are controlled by the country’s powerful “Jewish Lobby”. During the Palestinian statehood debate, Conservative MP Andrew Bridgen confirmed the power of the “Jewish Lobby”, saying: “The political system of the world’s superpower and our great ally the United States is very susceptible to well-funded powerful lobbying groups and the power of the Jewish lobby in America.”
Earlier hundreds of Israeli notables including Nobel Prize laureate Prof. Daniel Kahneman, former Meretz ministers Ran Cohen and Yossi Sarid, four former MKs, six winners of the Israeli Prize and the former attorney-general Michael Ben Yair in a letter urged British MPs to vote in favor of Palestinian statehood.
However, now more and more Europeans are reaching the conclusion that their governments are using their military muscles not to defend national borders but the Zionist entity created by the western powers in the Arab heartland.
I believe it’s a great victory for Hamas. Britain now becomes the second European Union member to make the rightful decision after the recent decision by Sweden.
I have a reflection:
Mature Charismatic-Church of Rome that is under prophetic anointing; celibate priesthood of Church in Rome will be able to proofread for human errors, without error they will do that.
Two of them, at least are needed for that task independent from others that are dealing with issues in Holy Land.
Unintentional mistakes have to be restricted and not implemented. Wrong believes/acts implemented in Holy Land can spiritually excommunicate family lines for a very long time.
For this reason, you do have Vatican as observing entity at UN.
Very Old celibate priesthood Charismatic-Church of Rome, perhaps they can be in pries-retirement, so you may look there, as well.
I have another reflection:
The vote has to start at UN.
It seems that Sweden and England are not voting in a valid way toward the Holy Land.
Kata:
On the contrary, finally Europe is waking up to its responsibilities, past and present,
for the terrible displacement of the Holy Land that it initiated in an undisguised colonial
initiative, the Balfour Declaration, almost a century ago. And to convince you further, I
write from the Eternal City of Rome.
Richard
Well put, Richard. It might give Kata pause for further “reflection”.
You are just beloved Professor Falk, and you will not regret that you did take spiritual and natural authority over the Holy Land.
I am pleased having just watched Noam Chomsky addressing the UN General Assembly 2 Days ago.
It’s not that he presented any new information. This Blog has discussed the very specific things and history he outlines in his speech. That’s why Richard and all the other participants in this Blog should be pleased as well!
The Times They Are A-Changin'”
Come gather ’round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’
Or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who
That it’s namin’
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside
And it is ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don’t criticize
What you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin’
Please get out of the new one
If you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’.
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin’
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’.
Bob Dylan – 1964
As long as we’re quoting Dylan…Max Blumenthal’s stay in Gaza during ‘protective edge’ made me wonder was he taking the last stanza of ‘Hard Rain’ literally. His statement in one interview was encouraging, saying how many of his generation of young Jewish people are either indifferent to or critical of militant Zionism, leading straight to Thoreau’s “one generation abandons the enterprises of another like stranded vessels”.
Beau, this is along the same line.
Don’t tell us what to talk about, say students at Open Hillel’s first conference
Activists claim ‘red lines’ within established U.S. Jewish community, such as BDS, stifle genuine debate on Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/.premium-1.620749#.VD0pvkFbUhI.facebook
On October 14, 2014, UK’s top Israeli Hasbara news website, Jewish Chronicle, reported that since the Zionist entity (with $17.3 billion annual military budget) did not have the money to provide low-cost dental care to its five million Jewish citizens, American Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein promised to raise the money to cover the expenses.
The Chicago-based International Fellowship of Christians and Jews (IFCJ) with branches in Israel, Canada, Ukraine, etc., is a mega Shylock scam to suck over $180 million annually from Christian Zionists in the US and Canada. Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein CEO, founded the IFCJ over 26 years ago.
IFCJ donates over $25 million per year to “needy” Jews in Israel – but provides no monetary assistance to Christians in Gaza and the West Bank whose properties are continuously destroyed by the Jewish soldiers and armed Jew settlers.
http://rehmat1.com/2014/10/17/christian-zionist-donkeys-pay-jewish-dental-care-in-israel/
Israeli political analyst Inna Lazareva had reflection …
“The quick-moving sands of the Middle East have shifted once again. Now Turkey and Israel stand once again at odds with one another, the Iraqi government is an Iranian proxy, and the US and Iran appear to be edging closer to each other. Out of the rubbles of devastation in the region we may yet witness the birth of a Kurdish state, to which Israel has been a helpful, if self-interested, MIDWIFE.”
http://rehmat1.com/2014/10/18/israel-the-midwife-of-kurdish-state/
One could spend a college semester on just what rehmati has raised regarding the historic dismemberment of Kurdistan. With the defeat of the Ottomans, it appeared with the Treaty of Sevres that the Kurds would be united – and then with the Treaty of Lausanne they were separated into areas of Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria and Armenia. This was an injustice that they are unwilling to forget. Locating oils and minerals, besides religion and tribal loyalties etc, is always important. If Israel is cutting a deal with them, it might be understandable that they would be interested. The PKK in Turkey is likely to be prominent in the deal. And Turkey, understandably, is in fierce opposition. It’s an interesting study in the residuals of World War I which are still with us. The victors always suggest that the vanquished just forget the past and move on. But they don’t……..